Uncapped with Jack Altman

Uncapped #39 | Daniele Perito from depthfirst

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Jan 14, 2026
Daniele Perito, Co-founder and Executive Chairman of depthfirst, shares insights from his impressive journey including his leadership roles at Faire and Cash App. He discusses the inception stories of these companies, revealing how experimentation led to success. Daniele dives into AI's transformative role in security, the ongoing battle between attackers and defenders, and why security feels like an isolated realm. He also explains depthfirst's mission to integrate security seamlessly into developer workflows, making it both efficient and effective.
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Software Security Is Central To AI Safety

  • Daniele links improved computer security to AI safety: insecure software undermines control over powerful AI.
  • Securing open software can create a mission-aligned commercial flywheel.

AI Can Act As An Always-On Security Engineer

  • AI enables an "AI security engineer" that converges multiple security tools into reasoning-driven detection.
  • This approach can find deeper, previously human-only vulnerabilities.

Attackers vs Defenders In An AI Era

  • Perfect security is impossible; attackers need one path, defenders need to close many.
  • With AI lowering attack costs, defenders must get ahead by leveraging context and scale.
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