The Master Investor Podcast with Wilfred Frost

Dan Ives: How To Pick Generational Tech Winners

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Dec 15, 2025
Dan Ives, Managing Director at Wedbush Securities and founder of the Ives ETF, discusses how to identify tech winners in the AI era. He shares insights on the early phases of the AI boom, emphasizing that only 3% of adoption has occurred so far. Ives highlights key players like Nvidia and Apple, and outlines promising investments in hyperscalers and second-derivative companies. He addresses common bear case arguments regarding valuations and cloud risks while promoting a visionary approach to investing, focusing on innovators over numbers.
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INSIGHT

AI Adoption Is Still Nascent

  • Only ~3% of U.S. companies have embraced AI so far, so adoption is early.
  • Ives compares today to 1996 — we are early in a long AI expansion, not at a 1999 bubble peak.
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Many Winners Beyond Hyperscalers

  • Hyperscalers build the foundational stack but many second- and third-order winners will emerge.
  • Ives expects a multi-year bull market where chips, software, cybersecurity and power all benefit.
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Nvidia's Dominant Position

  • NVIDIA currently commands extreme demand with large lead times and supply tightness.
  • Ives calls Jensen Huang the godfather of AI and says others will 'pay rent' to NVIDIA for years.
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