
The Jordan Syatt Podcast Jefferson Fisher: How to Catch a Liar and Deal with Narcissists, Gaslighters, Bullies, and More…
Nov 19, 2025
Join Jefferson Fisher, a board-certified trial attorney and bestselling author, as he shares insights on navigating tough conversations. He reveals how to spot a liar and tackle narcissists and bullies effectively. Fisher discusses the art of cross-examination, emphasizing the importance of handling difficult talks with curiosity and purpose. He also highlights constructive ways to express anger and deal with gaslighting. Learn to transform challenging interactions into opportunities for deeper connection and understanding.
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Social Media Changed Jury Strategy
- Jefferson learned social media fame affected jury selection when many potential jurors recognized him.
- The defense settled quickly because his public presence threatened impartiality in that venue.
Identity Shields Facts From Change
- Facts often fail to change minds because challenges threaten identity tied to beliefs.
- Asking curious questions unlocks dialogue far better than trying to prove someone wrong.
Widen The Conversation Timeline
- Widen the timeframe for tough conversations and label them as ongoing to release pressure and allow progress.
- Tell people it will take time so mistakes and learning are expected instead of forcing a single decisive meeting.

