Stay Tuned with Preet Giving Up Is Unforgivable (with Joyce Vance)
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Oct 23, 2025 
Joyce Vance, former U.S. Attorney and law professor, discusses her new book, emphasizing that giving up on democracy is unforgivable. She explores the dangers of concentrated presidential power, the importance of discussing democracy in political discourse, and provides practical guidelines for civic action. Joyce also tackles news fatigue and the need to engage with opposing views to understand differing arguments. They touch on the impact of selective prosecution and reflect on hope amidst political challenges.
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Learn By Listening To Opposing Views
- Listening to opposing media helps you test your own beliefs and understand persuasive arguments.
- Vance highlights Finland's disinformation lessons as a model for teaching critical evaluation from youth.
Outcome Over Process Enables Authoritarianism
- A core problem is people prioritizing outcomes over constitutional process, which enables authoritarian moves.
- Vance calls this the defining principle of MAGA: bypass rights and process to get desired results.
Doug Jones' Authentic Campaign Win
- Joyce recounts Doug Jones winning in Alabama by being authentic and principled on divisive issues.
- She credits his honesty and listening for winning votes despite difficult political terrain.
