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[Faith] Episode 64: Drew G. I. Hart & Jarrod McKenna - Creative Resistance & the Joy of Nonviolence

Sep 8, 2025
Drew G. I. Hart, an Associate Professor of Theology, and Jarrod McKenna, a justice advocacy leader, discuss how Christians can engage in nonviolent resistance to inspire social change. They explore 'anabactivism,' blending Anabaptism and Black church traditions. The conversation dives into the power of humor as a tool against oppression and the need for creative disruption. Highlighting the importance of community and a joyful approach to activism, they envision a just society shaped by love and collaboration.
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ADVICE

Organize Locally, Start Small

  • Use grassroots community organizing to convert private frustration into collective agency and concrete local wins.
  • Start small, map who holds decision power, then build broad, bottom-up pressure to change policies or install a stop sign.
INSIGHT

Nonviolence As a Deeper Power

  • Nonviolence names a power deeper than harm, restoring dignity rather than mirroring aggression.
  • Jarrod McKenna frames nonviolence as a creative, constructive tradition beyond headline direct actions.
ADVICE

Turn Rage Into Creative Action

  • Channel youthful anger and creativity into nonviolent tactics that heal rather than harm.
  • Pair direct action with constructive programs that build new institutions inside the old society.
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