ITR Economics' Luce: No way we avoid a 'hard landing'

Patrick Luce, economist at ITR Economics says that the slowing cycle the economy will be going through this year will result in a hard landing late this year and into 2024. Luce still sees the consumer being in good shape to help power the economy along, which is why he expects the recession to be mild and reminiscent of the mid-1990s. Still after a recovery that will run most of the second half of this decade, Luce says the market is headed for real trouble -- another Great Depression -- in the 2030s. Dan Zanger, chief technical officer at ChartPattern.com offers some short and intermediate optimism, noting that the first week of the year tends to portend the action for the entire year and 2023 got off to an optimistic start. Zanger sees the best current opportunities in international stocks, particularly some big-name companies in China. Also on the show, Chuck answers a listener's question about taking an annuity or a lump-sum as they leave behind an employer who offered them a pension settlement, and Abby Davisson, co-author of 'Money and Love: An Intelligent Roadmap for Life's Biggest Decisions' joins Chuck for The Book Interview.