Reform UK are on a roll. The Tories are dancing to their tune, some polls are putting them on par with Labour and the wilder hard-right papers are hyping Farage as a potential PM. But how real is Reform’s “surge”? Are their voters really up for far-right populism, or are they more likely angry, disaffected, sometimes even left-leaning people who’ve lost faith in politics? Campaigning veteran Paul Mason of The New European and The Guardian’s Rafael Behr ask the big question of 2025: how do we stop Reform dragging Britain to the far-right?

• “Reform know how to play populist politics. They are a very well-funded autocratic party and they know what they’re doing.” – Paul Mason

• “Every time you say ‘open borders’ you convert a Reform voter to a fascist.” – Paul Mason

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