What Now? with Trevor Noah Mustafa Suleyman: Will AI Save Humanity or End It?
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Sep 18, 2025 
In this engaging conversation, Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of DeepMind and head of AI at Microsoft, explores the dual-edged nature of artificial intelligence. He discusses the origins of DeepMind and the complexities of how models learn. Roberto highlights the need for humanist superintelligence and the ethical dilemmas that arise. He predicts AI breakthroughs could reduce energy costs, but warns of job displacement. Suleyman argues for robust governance to ensure AI benefits humanity while addressing deepfake challenges and social stability. He envisions a future where AI fosters abundance and meaningful work.
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Prediction Is Political Power
- Miniaturized, cheap, and widely available predictive power is political power.
- Zero-cost execution removes friction and risks peace and stability if proliferation goes unchecked.
Build State Capacity For AI
- Invest in government capacity and regulation now to sculpt AI for public good.
- Treat regulation as necessary shaping, not anti-innovation obstruction.
Generating A New Handwritten Seven
- Mustafa recalls testing a handwriting model at DeepMind that could generate new digits it never saw.
- That early moment seeded the idea that generative prediction could scale into creativity across domains.
