The Lawfare Podcast Scaling Laws: Rapid Response to the AI Action Plan
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Jul 25, 2025 
Tim Fist, Director of Emerging Technology Policy, Neil Chilson, Head of AI Policy, Janet Egan, Senior Fellow at the Center for a New American Security, and Jessica Brandt, Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, discuss the recent AI Action Plan. They delve into the balance between fostering innovation and managing risks in AI integration, the need for robust cybersecurity measures amid international competition, and the urgency of developing infrastructure for AI advancements. The conversation also touches on the implications for national security and the role of collaboration in AI diplomacy.
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Focus on AI Adoption and Workforce
- AI adoption across government and society is a key focus, not just building frontier models.
- The plan recognizes a big opportunity exists now even before achieving AGI, highlighting workforce readiness and training.
Energy Infrastructure Limits AI Leadership
- AI development demands massive energy infrastructure comparable to several nuclear reactors for single models.
- US leadership requires reforming permitting laws to speed infrastructure building and compete with overseas energy-rich regions.
AI Infrastructure: National Security Risk
- Ceding AI infrastructure and compute leadership overseas risks national security and US dominance.
- China’s vast energy investments underscore the strategic imperative for the US to secure its own capabilities carefully.