Step into the deep time of the forest floor, where a single fallen leaf contains the history of the world, and invisible fungal networks hum with ancient conversations. Biologist and acclaimed author David George Haskell reveals a staggering truth: we are completely dependent on the botanical world, and our belief in strict human individuality is a biological illusion.

Haskell has spent much of his life training himself to see the universal within the infinitesimally small. He's famously sat for a year in a single square meter of Tennessee's forest, a mandala experience that revealed the deep history of the world through a single fallen leaf. He's a two-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for his books The Forest Unseen and Sounds Wild and Broken, and he received the John Burroughs Medal for The Songs of Trees.

His work often focuses on what he calls the unwaged labor of the natural world, the complex biological communities that sustain our planet without a monetary ledger. And his latest book is How Flowers Made Our World. In it, he argues that we are essentially grass apes dependent on the ancient innovations of flowering plants for two-thirds of our daily calories.

(0:00) Escaping the Screen: Real Connections in the Classroom

(01:07) The True Cost of AI (04:21) How Flowers Made Our World (04:48) Networked Connection is the Foundation of Life

(06:55) Contemplating the Small

(07:06) Consciousness, Intelligence & Memory in the More-Than-Human-World (08:29) We Are Grass Apes

(09:22) Memories of His Childhood in Paris & Wild Orchids

(10:33) The Networked Intelligence of Forests

(11:34) The Earth in Full Song

(12:59) The Practice of Listening

(14:23) Transforming Ourselves

(15:33) Silence Without Expectation

(16:35) A Sensory Legacy for the Future

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