Jocko Podcast 179: Playing The Long Game. Millennials, Mindset, and Leadership Mistakes from Battle, w/ Jason Gardner.
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May 29, 2019 Jason Gardner, a retired Navy Master Chief Petty Officer with vast SEAL Teams experience, shares invaluable insights on leadership and resilience. He reflects on the chaos of combat and the importance of communication in high-pressure situations. Gardner also discusses the long-game mentality in personal and professional growth, advocating for autonomy over control. He navigates through the complexities of mentoring and the need for self-reflection in leadership, illustrating how military experiences can significantly shape one's character and actions.
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Humility in Politics
- Jocko Willink emphasizes the importance of humility in bridging political divides.
- He argues that assuming you know everything prevents productive conversations and learning.
The .50 Cal in Afghanistan
- Jason Gardner recounts a deployment in Afghanistan where his team used a .50 caliber machine gun.
- The weapon's effectiveness deterred the Taliban and highlighted the importance of heavy firepower.
Hot Extraction
- Jason Gardner describes an operation in Afghanistan involving a hot extraction with an MI-17 helicopter.
- He had to hang off the ramp while shooting, emphasizing the chaotic nature of combat.

