DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Healthcare Hijacking | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou

Jan 2, 2026
Discover the fallout from millions losing health insurance and the impact of bipartisan inaction. Dive into the bold moves by NYC's new mayor, who is shaking up housing policy and free speech definitions. Reflect on the tragic Swiss ski resort fire and its safety implications. Tune in as they explore Venezuela’s shifting political landscape, the CIA's secretive practices, and personal anecdotes about working in intelligence and media. This lively conversation tackles crucial topics shaping our world today!
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ANECDOTE

Colleagues Who Became Hardened Operatives

  • John Kiriakou praises many CIA colleagues as patriots but laments higher-ups becoming radicalized.
  • He recounts companions who became effective yet brutal leaders involved in lethal operations.
INSIGHT

Flash Fire Killed Many At Ski Resort

  • The Swiss ski-resort fire was likely a 'flash fire' from sparkler-champagne stunts causing instant, fatal temperatures.
  • Hosts note flash fires are catastrophic even to fully geared firefighters and reflect code or event failures.
INSIGHT

Health Subsidy Lapse Spurs Broad Frustration

  • Millions lost subsidized ACA coverage due to Congressional inaction, causing sticker shock and political fallout.
  • Hosts predict anger will target both parties because Democrats failed to block subsidy lapses.
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