205: Elizabeth McCafferty
Blank Podcast with Giles Paley-Phillips & Jim Daly
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How to Be an Underdog
I just love seeing how other people live and getting other people's viewpoints. I think a lot of these stories are people that maybe, not all the time, but maybe a little bit dismissed by the mainstream media because they're quirky. And arguably, I think underdogs have more kind of grit and determination than most people. So for me, that's the most so important people we should be speaking to and learning from are the underdogs in a lot of ways.
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