Using AI to govern AI

Episode co-host:

• Marina Kaganovich, Enterprise Trust Lead, Office of the CISO, Google Cloud

Guest:

• James Sherer, Partner at BakerHostetler

Topics

• Is AI just an emerging technology or something bigger, deeper and different? Is this another emerging technology or a fundamental shift?
• How to effectively govern something that is rapidly changing at unprecedented velocity? We navigated the governance of the Internet and SaaS. What makes AI governance fundamentally different from the "Classic IT" or Data Governance models of the past?
• As we move toward Agentic AI, the line between tool and teammate blurs. Should we be governing AI agents through the lens of Technical Controls or Human Resources and behavioral contracts?
• What if we hand even more responsibility to AI? Where are the tipping points as we shift from assistance to autonomy?
• How to avoid unintended, negative consequences when setting policy, contrasting risk-based vs. rights-based regulation and regulatory expectations
• Give us some practical takeaways for a defensible AI program - if an organization had to defend its AI program to a regulator or a judge tomorrow?

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