Julia Gillard, Dame Sheila Hancock, Tree Climbing Champion and Abortion in Hungary
Woman's Hour
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Do You Think She Minded?
I wasn't nervous in the sense that i was a worried about having a conversation with her. I actually found in my interactions with her that that went uneasily. But you knew that, because of the way that these things are viewed through camera lenses and reported that every a micro second of you walking in and walking out would be a picked over. So that always induces and, you know, anxiety into it. And so i think are those things that perhaps protocol export experts put so much weight on were not of deep significance to her. What was mattering to her was finding this moment of connection which she did very well.
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