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Ep. 343: Ryan Holiday Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

Michael Covel's Trend Following

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How to Get a Publisher to Use Your Design

"I had the idea, even on my first book, I wanted to do my own cover," she says. "The publisher hated it. Like they just hated it. They were like, this is awful. We'll never use this." But after seeing a picture of her design at a conference, Penguin got back in touch with her and changed its mind.

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