What's the Difference Between Pleasure and Pain?

I think without an appetite for o in suffering, we would basically fall into a sort of hidonic life styles where we seek out pleasure. Nothing wrong with pleasure, but there's other appetites people have. And our appetite for suffering is deeply tied in to the other appetites. So most people want many things. They want pleasure, but they might also want meaning and difficulty in struggle, in morality and transcendence. For all this, you end up locked into some sort of suffering. People who climb mountains, or any sort of interesting athletic pursuit involve suffering. Any sort of deep personal pursuit, like having children, or even a long term relationship,. is gong to in volve

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