How I Learned to Live Without Limiting Resources

I think sometimes, at least in the moment, you may not think that something as quite as much of a gift as it is. And so a lot of my early professional career was after the housing crash in 2009. It wasn't a fun time to be in that business. They were printing money when I was in college and then as soon as I got out, it was like, we got to figure out a cup of costs. So yeah, it was born out of a human problem, but kind of later identified it was the parallels between the two, my industry growing up and software for me.