How to Get Out of the Fog Sooner

Jim advises taking obvious next steps, reflecting on encodings, and avoiding rash jumps that cause new cliffs.

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Oprah talks with the international bestselling author of Good to Great, Jim Collins, to discuss his groundbreaking new book What to Make of a Life. Drawing on ten years of research, Collins offers a data-driven answer to one of life’s most enduring questions: What do we do with this one precious life we’ve been given and how do you know what you’re truly meant to do? Collins explores how to navigate life’s “cliffs”—periods of great transition that leave us disoriented and how to find direction in the midst of mental fog. Oprah shares her own journey through 'the fog' and how she found her way out. Collins also offers practical guidance for anyone confronting a major career transition. This is a conversation for anyone, at any stage of life, seeking greater clarity, direction and meaning.

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What to Make of a Life, published by HarperCollins and written by Jim Collins, is available wherever books are sold.

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00:00:00 - Welcome Jim Collins, author of ‘What to Make of a Life’

00:03:19 - Why Jim started writing the book

00:06:50 - Every life has a cliff

00:10:25 - Cliffs can take many forms

00:14:30 - Self compassion for the cliff

00:19:00 - Oprah’s many revelations while reading

00:22:44 - Oprah on her encoding

00:25:00 - Oprah cold calling Toni Morrison

00:30:20 - How to deal with the fog after the cliff