How to Start a New Interventional Radiology Clinic at UAB

I really kind of saw it as first I needed to convince my partners right and then I need to convince referring physicians. And so you know first I'm not saying my partners weren't skeptical. They were they were all for it But you know there needs to be data there. It's really changing people's mindsets because the first thing you hear is Why do they need a second procedure? So once you start to change your mindset to Give me a reason that that filter needs to stay in but you'll find that a lot more of the filters will come out.