In this episode of National Fire Radio, Jeremy Donch sits down with Detroit Fire Department Sergeant Scott “Zig” Ziegler for a powerful and wide ranging conversation about firefighting culture, leadership, resilience, and personal growth.

Ziegler reflects on his early days in Highland Park, Michigan, where he worked in a severely underfunded fire department operating out of a makeshift warehouse station. With broken equipment, minimal resources, and young firefighters learning on the fly, the crew faced constant fires and dangerous conditions. During this time, Ziegler began documenting fires using helmet cameras and posting the footage online, unintentionally becoming one of the early pioneers of fire service video documentation. What started as a way to share videos with coworkers quickly gained attention and eventually led to national media coverage highlighting the realities firefighters faced in struggling cities.

The conversation explores the gritty reality of urban firefighting, the importance of experience in leadership, and how departments like Detroit continue to maintain a culture of aggressive firefighting while adapting to modern challenges such as increased EMS call volume and evolving operational demands.

Ziegler also shares his personal journey to becoming a Detroit firefighter, including years of waiting for the department to open hiring again. That persistence ultimately paid off when he joined the Detroit Fire Department and fulfilled a dream he had since high school.

Beyond the firehouse, the discussion turns to Ziegler’s presence on social media where he regularly shares insights about leadership, business, personal development, and faith. He explains why he chooses to focus on positivity and growth rather than negativity online, emphasizing the importance of influencing others in a constructive way.

The episode closes with a candid conversation about faith, purpose, and personal accountability. Both Jeremy and "Zig" reflect on how spirituality, mentorship, and meaningful relationships have helped shape their perspectives on life, leadership, and service.

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