Leading in Chaos: How to Stay Grounded Under Pressure | Amy Elizabeth Fox
The Midlife Chrysalis
Intro
Chip Conley and episode setup: spirituality in business and guest Amy Elizabeth Fox introduction.
What if the chaos in your life isn’t the problem… but the turning point?
In this episode, Amy Elizabeth Fox, leadership expert and co-founder of Mobius, explains why today’s pressure, uncertainty, and stress are actually pushing us to grow in a deeper way. Through her work with top executives and her own life story, she shows what it really takes to lead and stay grounded when everything feels unstable.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
- Why people fall back into old patterns under stress
- How your past shapes the way you lead and live today
- Why success in midlife can feel empty and how to change that
- What it really means to lead in chaos
- Why healing and self-awareness matter more than ever
This is not just about leadership. It’s about understanding yourself on a deeper level.
👉 Watch now if you feel overwhelmed, stuck, or ready for something more.
Timestamps:
2:43 What is vertical development
4:10 Personal and professional growth merge
5:29 Midlife leadership struggles
8:24 Early life challenges and illness
10:37 Genetic disease and urgency
11:35 Spiritual and environmental work
13:21 Leadership and spirituality connection
15:35 Corporate transformation and culture
19:29 Freedom after adversity
21:08 Feminine leadership in business
22:55 Leading in chaos introduction
24:40 Spiritual path and teachers
27:03 Spirituality in action
28:42 Chaos and leadership today
31:51 Key principles for leading in chaos
35:00 Corporate reality and hope
37:38 Midlife transformation insights
40:25 What improves with age
41:59 Freedom in midlife
46:28 From receiving to giving
47:24 Final wisdom and life philosophy
ABOUT AMY ELIZABETH FOX:
Bio: Amy Elizabeth Fox is the co-founder and CEO of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm. For over twenty years, she has advised senior leaders in eminent professional services firms and Fortune 500 companies on leadership and culture change. In 2026, she co-authored Leading in Chaos with Nicholas Janni and is widely regarded as an expert in vertical development and trauma-informed work in organizations.
Links:
Leading in Chaos Book Website: https://leadinginchaosbook.com/
Mobius Website: http://www.mobiusleadership.com/
Amy’s Website: http://www.amyelizabethfox.com/
ABOUT LEADING IN CHAOS
Book Overview: Nicholas Janni and Amy Elizabeth Fox’s forthcoming book, Leading in Chaos, argues that in an era of polycrisis and sustained uncertainty, leadership requires next practice — a fundamentally different inner operating system grounded in deeper human intelligence. It reframes leadership as an embodied, developmental practice, calling leaders to act with coherence, presence, and integrity amid ongoing disruption. Because, in their words, “chaos is the new black.”
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