Introduction

Right now I am the CEO of a company called refund labs where a B2B demand RevOps and revenue R&D firm that helps software companies scale. Also am the host of a podcast and a content creator on LinkedIn TikTok Instagram YouTube. Currently building a software company in stealth mode that we expect to announce before the end of the year Is that a marketing related company that's tied to refine labs or so it'll be it'll be a separate business. We've been incubating inside of refined labs off a lot of the Intellectual property and processes that we've developed here. And then when we launching that as a separate brand and company down the road and that's centered around B2