Are There Any Prospects of Resistance to Deep Sea Mining?

A number of marine biologists in particular have kind of led this effort to call for a moratorium saying we don't know enough about the deep ocean and how it would be impacted by deep sea mining. So those calls for moratorium from the science community have been happening for a number of years more recently in just the last couple of years. We've seen, like I mentioned, these car makers actually kind of joining this call for aatorium. And then just this year at the ISA meeting in Kingston, Jamaica, for the first time, national governments kind of stood up as they're in the middle of this debate over making this rulebook for mining.