
The Thought of Ivan Illich
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The Importance of Interdependence
I would say also the idea that we can do more for ourselves and maybe we're led to believe this is not a yep kind of a pull yourself up by your bootstraps sort of modern individualistic ideal right it's rather it's always coupled with interdependence. I think there are a lot of ways of people on on all you know at all levels of society would say that our institutions are failing us, says Illich.
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