This is our full interview with Martin Shkreli and Max Marchione, recorded live on TBPN.
We discuss the sharp divide between biotech orthodoxy and the rising peptide movement, unpack the fight over whether compounds like BPC-157 are dangerous gray-market hype or promising under-researched tools with real-world patient impact, and debate whether the FDA should hold the line on traditional evidence standards or adapt to a world where off-label experimentation, compounding, and anecdotal outcomes are already forcing the issue.
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