The First Business Hire Versus CS

In this episode of Mostly Growth, Kyle Poyar and CJ Gustafson run a fantasy startup draft—Super Bowl–style. If you were founding a company today, who would you hire first? Marketing generalist, founding BDR, product marketing, RevOps, customer success, or a first business hire? Kyle and CJ draft five non-technical roles each, debate tradeoffs, and explain how early hiring choices shape growth, efficiency, and execution. Then it’s on you to vote on the winning roster—with real (and painful) stakes for the loser.

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LINKS: 

Mostly Metrics: https://www.mostlymetrics.com

CJ on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cj-gustafson-13140948/

Growth Unhinged: https://www.growthunhinged.com/

Kyle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-poyar/

Slacker Stuff: https://www.slackerstuff.com/

Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/slackerstuff/

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The Psychology Behind Why Buyers Don’t Change | DemandJen

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Fantasy Punishments and Cold Open  

00:02:35 Show Intro and Draft Stakes  

00:03:37 Framing the Fantasy Startup Draft  

00:05:41 Round One

00:10:13 Sponsors — RightRev | Tropic | HockeyStack  

00:13:54 Round Two

00:18:00 Round Three

00:21:10 Round Four

00:24:12 Round Five

00:27:18 Why This Pick Didn’t Make the Draft  

00:28:12 Pricing in the Real World: Super Bowl Ads  

00:30:51 Bonuses in the Real World: NFL Playoff Incentives  

00:32:59 Voting, Final Thoughts, and Wrap-Up

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