Q&A: Is retracing a career a step backward?

Your professional calling is a mysterious idea. It’s the ineffable sense that you are meant to do something. Many people get tripped up in their pursuit of their calling, because they conceive of it like buried treasure—something hidden that they must find. In truth, your calling can be built no matter your present circumstances. So, how do you do it?

In this episode, I explain how to move from chasing an objective career—titles, status, money—to building a more subjective one based on what you care about and what genuinely interests you. I also share three simple steps to help you evaluate and shape your calling. If you stick with them, you’ll be more likely to end up doing work that feels meaningful—and, in turn, you’ll get happier.

If you want to go deeper, check out my book, The Meaning of Your Life.

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro

(02:19) How to find what you’re meant to do

(04:15) Work-ism and workaholism

(06:04) 4 habits of the happiest people 

(07:13) What can we learn about our callings from religion?

(13:33) Subjective vs. objective careers 

(15:19) Work-life balance vs. work-life integration 

(18:05) A misconception people make: calling isn’t just unusual talent

(19:39) How do you find your calling?

(19:42) #1. Look within 

(22:41) #2. Focus on fascination 

(27:45) #3. Serve others 

(31:35) Q&A #1: How can you positively influence others? 

(33:34) Q&A #2: Is retracing a career path not making progress?

(34:53) Q&A #3: How can we help teenagers build their own happiness habits? 

(35:50) Outro

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Referenced:

• The Meaning of Your Life: Finding Purpose in an Age of Emptiness: themeaningofyourlife.com

• Meaning Membership: https://hub.arthurbrooks.com/the-meaning-membership 

• The Happiness Scale: https://learn.arthurbrooks.com/the-happiness-scale 

• The Pursuit of Happiness with Arthur Brooks: https://www.thefp.com/s/the-pursuit-of-happiness-with-arthur 

• 6 science-backed ways to raise happiness at work: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/podcast/6-science-backed-ways-to-raise-happiness-and-success-at-work 

• If I work harder, will you love me? https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/09/workaholic-love-practical-solutions/684353/

• ...References continued at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.arthurbrooks.com/office-hours⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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