This week, I sat down with Mathieu Elshout to explore the journey that took him from environmental sciences into institutional real estate investing, and how he is now helping build the European property platform for one of Australia's fastest growing pension funds.

Mathieu is Head of European Property at Aware Super UK. Before joining Aware Super, he spent more than a decade at PGGM managing European real estate investments through the Global Financial Crisis and subsequent recovery, and later worked at Patrizia where he helped develop the firm's sustainability and impact investing strategy.

In this conversation, Mathieu shares how his early career began in environmental consultancy before gradually transitioning into the real estate sector. That background continues to shape the way he thinks about real assets today, particularly the growing importance of sustainability, long term value creation and the role real estate plays in the wider economy.

We discuss his time at PGGM and the experience of managing institutional real estate portfolios during the Global Financial Crisis. Mathieu explains how those years shaped his perspective on leverage, liquidity and market cycles, and why some of the most valuable lessons in investing are learned during periods of stress.

The conversation also explores his move to Patrizia and the development of its impact investing strategy. Mathieu explains how sustainability evolved from a niche topic into a core investment consideration, and why institutional investors increasingly see environmental and social outcomes as aligned with long term financial performance.

Finally, we discuss Aware Super's growing presence in Europe and how the Australian superannuation model is creating some of the largest and most influential pools of capital in global real estate. Mathieu explains how the fund is building its European portfolio through partnerships and platforms including investments in UK residential, Spanish rental housing and hospitality, and why alignment with operating partners is critical when deploying long term capital.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode

✅ From Environmental Science to Real Estate

Mathieu's path from sustainability consultancy into institutional property investing.

✅ Lessons from the Global Financial Crisis

What managing real estate portfolios through a market downturn teaches investors.

✅ Sustainability and Impact Investing

How ESG and impact strategies became central to institutional real estate investing.

✅ Building Aware Super's European Platform

Why the Australian pension fund model is expanding rapidly into global real estate.

✅ Investing Through Partnerships

Why alignment with operating partners is essential for long term capital.

EPISODE CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction

01:32 From Environmental Science to Real Estate

06:45 Early Career and Moving into Institutional Investing

14:10 Managing Portfolios Through the Global Financial Crisis

25:34 Sustainability and Impact Investing at Patrizia

36:22 The Aware Super Platform and European Expansion

47:18 Partnerships, Platforms and Investment Strategy

56:40 Where Opportunities Exist in Today's Market

01:02:11 The £500M Investment Question

And of course, I asked Mathieu the big question:

Who are the People, what Property, and which Place would you invest in if you had £500 million to deploy?

If you have thoughts or questions about this episode, drop them in the comments. I'd love to hear your take.

The People Property Place Podcast is powered by Rockbourne, recruiting leadership talent for real estate funds, owners, investors, and developers.

🔊 LIKE ➡ SHARE ➡ SUBSCRIBE

👉 http://peoplepropertyplace.com/

Der Sturm auf das Bollwerk hält an

Ö1 #doublecheck

Debatte um Ausgewogenheit und Schere im Kopf

The AI-powered Podcast Player