Is There Resistance to Managed Charging?

I don't think there's a lot of resistance to EVs or managed charging. There are layers of complexity on their grid, and so we've talked about how we want to keep things very simple for drivers. But what's interesting is how much complexity in the optimization we can create for the grid side of it. Our true north is to build what we call disco distribution integrated smart charging orchestration. That was how much, how many meetings did that take to.