Changed view: professionals will adopt AI carefully

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about how ‘professional’ Five Eyes cyber espionage agencies like NSA will use AI. These agencies place a premium on stealth and won’t yolo AI.

This episode is available on Youtube.

Show notes

• How AI-powered espionage will favour China
• Google's AI threat tracker, February 2026