"I think sometimes doing the things that we want to do, a lot of other people can perceive as attacks and punches like they're getting punched in the face by what we want to do." Jim Kleiber

Join Niiamah (@niiamahashong) as he and Jim Kleiber navigate the complex terrain of personal ambition, family expectations, and societal norms. This engaging dialogue explores the tension between playing it safe and pursuing bold, unconventional paths in life and career.

Welcome to the Outlier's Edge Podcast, hosted by Niiamah Ashong, Founder of Outlier's Edge and Sherpa of the World of Difference. On this podcast, you'll join other high-performing unconventional leaders and entrepreneurs (aka Outliers) as they talk about leveraging what makes them different to make a difference in the world.

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Timestamps:

0:01 - Introduction and purpose explained

1:01 - Discussion on coaching podcast

2:20 - Setting expectations for conversation

2:59 - Jim's desire to play big

4:04 - Challenges of playing big discussed

5:42 - Jim's proudest accomplishments explored

7:35 - Discussing fear and cultural norms

8:57 - Exploring the outlier vs outsider concept

10:02 - Niiamah's recovering people-pleaser background mentioned

11:21 - Jim's skill in creating open spaces

13:50 - Family and cultural expectations discussed

15:19 - Jim's global experiences shared

18:18 - Analogy of coming out explored

19:47 - Jim's appearance and playing differently noted

21:36 - Niiamah shares personal relationship example

23:21 - Glass partition analogy discussed

25:31 - Jim's defensive reaction explored

28:31 - Jim's big idea explained

31:28 - Niiamah offers to help

34:28 - Discussion on bottom line

36:33 - Exploring alternative business models

39:54 - MacArthur Fellows Program mentioned

41:45 - Discussing business model alternatives

44:02 - Jim's philosophy on giving explored

47:36 - Addressing reciprocity in relationships

49:34 - Emotional combat concept introduced

51:29 - Exploring intimacy in commerce

53:06 - Jim's biggest insight shared

53:41 - Niiamah's perspective on crowd employment

54:29 - Closing remarks and appreciation expressed

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