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Chemist Matthew Stahl shares with Dennis McKenna his discovery that ancient Eleusinian kykeon likely used barley infected with a safe fungus, mixed with young barley's natural plant compounds under mild acid to transform a mild substance into a powerful, LSD-like visionary brew with no nausea.

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Matthew Stahl learned Lab chemistry while attending Texas A&M University and Texas Lutheran University for 4 years at Texas A&M University and 2 years at Texas Lutheran University. He has worked in the Automotive production industry for 32 years, in the quality department, with chemistry, to achieve enhanced safety and better performance. Matthew Stahl has read at least 200 books on psychedelics, numerous papers, and studied psychedelics for around 24 years.

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