Mueller Played by Trump's Rules

Chuck Todd opens with the two stories dominating the weekend: the Iran war's cascading economic consequences and Trump's vile celebration of Robert Mueller's death. On Iran, Chuck warns that rising energy costs with oil above $100 a barrel are not politically neutral — they function as a tax on existence that directly breaches the contract Trump's own voters signed up for — and that Trump is visibly panicking about gas prices because they disproportionately hurt his base. He argues that killing the Ayatollah was never going to topple the regime because the Iranian leadership doesn't operate as rational actors who can be deterred by suffering, that Trump made the same catastrophic miscalculation Putin made in Ukraine by assuming it would be easy, and that nobody in Trump's orbit will deliver bad news because there is now a North Korea-level sycophancy around the president.

He then turns to Trump's Truth Social post celebrating the death of Mueller — a Bronze Star combat veteran, 12-year FBI director, and lifelong public servant who died at 81 from Parkinson's disease — in which Trump wrote "Good, I'm glad he's dead." Chuck notes that even Fox News' Brit Hume tweeted that this is why people don't merely oppose Trump but actively hate him. He argues that character matters in politics more than any policy position, and that Trump is fundamentally incapable of showing grace or knowing when to shut up He revisits the Mueller investigation itself, arguing that the real failure wasn't the probe's legal conclusions — which confirmed Russia took action to help elect Trump and that the campaign expected to benefit from stolen information — but that there were no consequences, and that Trump's refusal to acknowledge Russian help was never about innocence but about protecting the legitimacy of his presidency, with the entire GOP going along because copping to it would have been politically fatal.

Finally, Chuck hops into the ToddCast Time Machine to revisit the nuclear meltdown incident at Three Mile Island and argues that it derailed a massive transition to nuclear energy that could have led to energy independence and potentially avoided multiple wars in the middle east. He also answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment.

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Timeline:

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00:00 Chuck Todd’s introduction

04:15 Launching a new sports history podcast on Tuesday!

08:30 Noosphere interview with Joseph Allbriton

09:45 Providing local news services to the Washington D.C. area

11:30 Bezos didn’t live in DC, didn’t understand WaPo’s mission 

12:45 The war in Iran is impacting everything. Everything else is downstream

13:15 Rising energy costs are not politically neutral, a tax on existing

14:15 Rising costs is a breach of the contract Trump voters signed up for

15:45 Iranian regime isn’t going to fight as rational actors, suffering doesn’t deter them

17:00 Killing the Ayatollah was never going to topple the regime

17:45 Nobody will give Trump bad news, he only hears what he wants to hear

19:00 There is a North Korea level of sycophancy around Trump

20:00 Trump made same mistake Putin made in Ukraine… thought it’d be easy

21:15 Trump alienated America’s allies, they want no part of his war

22:00 America is isolated and alone, but really need help from allies

23:45 Trump is finding out the hard way why other presidents didn’t hit Iran

25:15 Trump vacillates on his positions & messaging from day to day

26:15 Trump is panicking about gas prices, affects his voters the most

28:00 Trump celebrates Robert Mueller’s death in Truth Social post

29:45 The levels Trump will stoop to are truly sad

30:30 Brit Hume tweets “This is why people don’t just oppose Trump, they hate him”

31:15 Trump is incapable of ever showing grace or knowing when to shut up

32:15 Character matters in politics more than a policy position

33:15 Failure of Mueller investigation was no consequences for Russian meddling

34:30 Mueller report confirmed that Russia took action to help elect Trump

35:15 Wikileaks releases were very well curated & required American knowledge

37:30 Collusion wasn’t the crime, it was that Trump put himself above the country

39:15 Copping to Russian help would have delegitimized Trump, so GOP went along

40:30 People in Trump’s orbit were fine with Russian meddling since it helped them

41:30 Bob Mueller lived a life of public service, did not deserve Trump’s vile words

42:45 Trump’s supporters were mad about people mocking Charlie Kirk’s death

47:30 ToddCast Time Machine - March 28th, 1979 - Three Mile Island

48:30 It was the fear, not the details that defined the story of Three Mile Island

49:15 In the 60’s and 70’s the U.S. was rapidly building nuclear power plants

50:15 Operators at Three Mile Island acted logically, but warning system was flawed

52:30 Event happened near population center, which increased the panic

53:30 Jimmy Carter shown visiting site in protective gear, which shifted the psychology

55:45 US stopped building a nuclear future, and was dependent on foreign oil

56:45 Nuclear industry tried to recover in the 80s… then Chernobyl happened

58:15 Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima all failed for different reasons

59:00 Without Three Mile Island, America’s energy system could look very different

1:01:00 Three Mile Island became a symbol of doubt in nuclear energy

1:01:45 Could we have avoided multiple wars in the Middle East?

1:02:00 Ask Chuck

1:02:15 Is Trump’s vilification of political opponents more extreme than other presidents?

1:11:00 Can you recommend some books on James Garfield?

1:13:15 What issues can Democrats moderate on to appeal to independent voters?

1:16:45 Why are Republicans so much better than Democrats at messaging?

1:20:00 Any organizations to help TSA agents affected by shutdown? 

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