Is more nuclear states safer or riskier?

No notes, just two geopolitical degenerates (Jacob and Marko) running a full-court press on the week’s chaos. The lads spar over Trump’s “Board of Peace,” ask whether a U.S. strike on Iran is strategy or pure domestic theater, and map out what escalation could really look like - from drones in the Strait of Hormuz to oil shocks and asymmetric retaliation.

Then... they zoom out: nuclear proliferation in a multipolar world, Europe’s slow strategic awakening in Munich, and whether America’s foreign policy is performance art or hard power. It’s unscripted, blunt, and - annoyingly - extremely serious.

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Timestamps:

(00:00) - Beginning

(02:29) - Who Showed Up to the Beijing Parade & “Board of Peace”?

(04:24) - What Even Is the “Board of Peace”?

(07:32) - Iran Time!

(11:14) - Iran Capabilities & Asymmetry

(14:54) - Worst-Case Escalation

(25:36) - Trump’s “Punch-Then-Deal” Strategy

(33:06) - Did the US Miss the Protest Window?

(36:27) - So What Happens Next?

(39:26) - Why Airstrikes Became America’s Default

(40:45) - Geopolitics vs. US Domestic Politics

(42:35) - Nuclear Proliferation Returns

(48:18) - The Real Proliferation Risks

(54:20) - Clean Energy, Cartels, and Why States Control Nukes

(58:18) - Munich Security Conference Check-In

(01:06:20) - Europe’s Next Security Umbrella

(01:11:48) - Europe’s Demographics & Integration Debate

(01:15:57) - The Multi‑Ethnic Europe That Might Return

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Jacob Shapiro is a speaker, consultant, author, and researcher covering global politics and affairs, economics, markets, technology, history, and culture. He speaks to audiences of all sizes around the world, helps global multinationals make strategic decisions about political risks and opportunities, and works directly with investors to grow and protect their assets in today’s volatile global environment. His insights help audiences across industries like finance, agriculture, and energy make sense of the world.

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Marko Papic is a macro and geopolitical expert at BCA Research, a global investment research firm. He provides in-depth analysis that combines geopolitics and markets in a framework called GeoMacro. He is also the author of Geopolitical Alpha: An Investment Framework for Predicting the Future.

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Marko’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marko-papic-geopolitics/

Marko’s Twitter: https://x.com/Geo_papic

Marko’s Macro & Geopolitical Research at BCA: https://www.bcaresearch.com/marketing/geomacro