Cantilever's Permanent Capital Listing Goal

Why would an LP invest in the GP instead of the fund… and what problem is GP stakes really solving? In this episode, I sit down with Todd Owens, Managing Partner of Cantilever Group, to unpack the world of GP stakes. Todd explains what investors are actually buying when they take a minority stake in an alternative asset manager, why liquidity risk is the central challenge, and how structural innovation could reshape the asset class.

Highlights:

• What you are really underwriting when you invest in a GP instead of a fund
• The hidden liquidity risk most LPs underestimate in GP stakes
• Why unpredictable exits are the defining challenge of minority GP investing
• How public listings could reshape liquidity for GP stakes funds
• Why lower middle market GP deals may offer structural advantages
• The three primary reasons GPs sell minority stakes and which one Todd likes most
• When growth capital meaningfully accelerates a manager’s trajectory
• Red flags when principals are taking money off the table
• How to distinguish between a durable firm and a single-founder platform
• Why venture capital can be “too volatile” for GP stakes investors
• The pricing discipline required to walk away from good businesses
• How strategic value creation works when you are a passive minority partner

Guest Bio:

Todd Owens is the Managing Partner of Cantilever Group, an investment firm that focuses on minority GP stakes in lower middle market alternative asset managers. The firm targets investments between $15 million and $75 million, partnering with managers seeking growth capital, capital restructuring, or solutions for generational transitions. Todd previously spent decades advising and working with asset management businesses, including serving as a Partner at Goldman Sachs, and at Cantilever Group he focuses on building a permanent capital model that aligns with GPs while addressing liquidity considerations for LPs.

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(0:00) Why GP Stakes Became a New Asset Class (0:36) What Investors Actually Buy in a GP Stake (1:22) Fund Returns vs. Owning the Management Company (2:09) The Biggest Risk: Unpredictable Liquidity (3:18) How GP Stakes Investors Create Liquidity (5:44) The Permanent Capital Model for GP Stakes (10:30) The 3 Reasons GPs Sell Stakes in Their Firm (11:56) How GP Stakes Capital Fuels Firm Growth (19:07) When GPs Take Money Off the Table (31:03) The Strategic Advantage of Investing at the GP Level