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In this in-depth theological conversation, Tony sits down with Ed Mabrie to challenge common assumptions about spiritual warfare and end-times prophecy. Ed explains why the fallen Elohim are not unified under Satan, but operate as rival powers competing for control, driven by addiction to worship and the desire to overturn God’s plan. The discussion moves through Babel, Psalm 82, the Nephilim, and Revelation, reframing war and global chaos as the result of supernatural conflict rather than human ambition alone. Ed also outlines why deception is Satan’s primary weapon, not raw power, and why the Church acts as the restrainer holding back the Antichrist. Throughout the conversation, we are reminded that believers carry real authority in Christ, authority that is rarely taught and often unused. This is a dense but grounding conversation meant to sharpen discernment and reset how Christians view the unseen battle shaping history.

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