Hermes Shows Promise but Trails OpenClaw

Anthropic just pulled the plug on Claude subscriptions for OpenClaw and every third party agentic tool. So Jason and Lon welcome back three of our top TWiST OpenClaw experts to break down what it means, how much it’s going to cost now, and whether this is truly the end of the subsidized AI era.

And they all brought demos! We’re checking out ClawChief from Ryan Carson, Alex Finn’s agent Henry, and Yazin Alirhayim’s Sidecast protocol, inspired by a special request from JCal!

Hosts

Jason Calacanis: http://x.com/jason

Lon Harris: https://x.com/lons

Guests

Ryan Carson: https://x.com/ryancarson

Clawchief: https://github.com/snarktank/clawchief

Alex Finn: https://x.com/AlexFinn

Creator Buddy: https://www.creatorbuddy.io/

Yazin Alirhayim: https://x.com/yazins

OpenOats / Sidecast: https://github.com/yazinsai/OpenOats

Further Reading

The Checklist Manifesto by Atul Gawande: https://www.amazon.com/Checklist-Manifesto-How-Things-Right/dp/0312430000

Marc Andreessen on AI job loss: https://x.com/pmarca/status/2040919227641856307

OpenAI acquires TBPN: https://openai.com/index/openai-acquires-tbpn/

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Today’s show:

Timestamps:

0:00 Welcome back to TWiST

0:32 Jason's thinks Andor is as good as Empire Strikes Back…

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3:26 Check out the checklist manifesto! https://www.amazon.com/Checklist-Manifesto-How-Things-Right/dp/0312430000

6:36 Our guests Ryan Carson, Alex Finn, and Yazin Alirhayim, and join the show

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10:46 People are automating their coworkers and getting them fired…

18:32 Anthropic Bans OpenClaw

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24:06 How "caveman talk" makes AI works better

27:31 Alex thinks $2000/ month subscription plans are inevitable for AI.

29:31 Why is nobody using the leaked Anthropic Model?

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32:37 Open models have been 6 months behind for the past few years

35:53 Why did OpenAI acquire TBPN?

42:01 Tactical/ Practical: The product itself is the most important thing

44:31 Demo or Die! Yazin is back to show off OpenOats

55:05 Ryan's "Claw Chief" https://github.com/snarktank/clawchief/blob/main/skills/executive-assistant/SKILL.md?plain=1

1:02:14 Alex's big announcement, "Henry intelligent machines"

1:12:33 Alex Finn DESTROYS Higgsfield's marketing strategy

1:15:35 Throwback to "Pay Per Post"

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