Equipment costs and build economics

Season 5, Episode 8: On this episode of the No Cap Podcast, Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Chris Salerno, founder of QC Capital, to break down how he underwrites across multiple real estate verticals and why car washes have quietly become one of the most interesting operating-heavy “real estate plus business” hybrids in the market. Chris explains what actually drives performance in the car wash business, from site selection and membership economics to cost pressures like water and chemicals, and why QC focuses on a more efficient model with shorter tunnels and lower all-in development costs.

The conversation also dives into small bay industrial in the Southeast, why the space is heating up, and how Chris thinks about risk as multifamily rent growth slows and the easy era of cap-rate compression fades. A practical, operator-driven look at where real estate returns are really coming from today.

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TOPICS
00:00 – Intro And Why QC Invests Across Verticals
04:36 – Chris’ Background And How QC Capital Started
08:22 – First Deals: Brokers, Capital, And Getting A Loan Without A Track Record
12:47 – Why QC Moved Beyond Multifamily
13:56 – Why Car Washes: Cash Flow, Tax Benefits, And Vertical Integration
16:44 – Why Multifamily Could Stay Tough Over The Next Cycle
19:15 – The Liquidity Fund: Short-Term Real Estate-Backed Yield
21:38 – Car Wash Fundamentals: Tunnel Design, Equipment, And Build Costs
27:30 – Operations Reality: Water, Chemicals, Staffing, And Automation
34:53 – Small Bay Industrial: Demand, Rents, And Why It’s Heating Up

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