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Chatter: Presidents Who Lose and Run Again with Troy Senik

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The Work Ethic of a Young Lawyer

Cleveland didn't have to attend college and then attend law school. He could become a lawyer by working with lawyers and essentially reading for the bar exam, he says. Even within his own legal practice, Cleveland was not seen as this huge rising star. It's pretty clear to me from a scan of his entire life that he's something of an introvert.

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