Is the Ideology an Appendage?

El-Roth: I think many of these people genuinely thought, let's just take the case of Trump and you watch the way they were talking back and forth to each other. In many ways reminds me of the times, there were true believers, right? There were true believers who said Trump is basically a kin to a terrorist leader or the Christchurch murderer. And those people are driven by ideology. It's playing out in basically all of the sense-making elite institutions in American life right now. The reason it's not being reported on by places like the New York Times or the Washington Post is because they are implicated in it.