Interview with Jesse Kelly Begins

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Melting ICE?

The Trump administration’s announcement—reinforced by Tom Homan—that Minnesota’s ICE surge operation is being scaled down after a “mission accomplished”‑style success. Clay and Buck outline how Minneapolis quietly reached a handshake agreement to reverse sanctuary‑style resistance and begin alerting ICE when violent illegal immigrants are taken into custody, a major policy pivot after years of non‑cooperation. The hosts warn that activist “street harpies,” Antifa‑aligned groups, and left‑wing organizers may try to replicate Minneapolis’s obstruction tactics in other liberal cities. They also dive deep into the political consequences, arguing that Tim Walz’s political career is effectively over, and preview competitive 2026 races—especially the Minnesota Senate race, where Michelle Tafoya trails by just a few points.

MASA: Make America Smart Again

A major interview featuring U.S. Secretary of Education Linda McMahon, who outlines several key initiatives aimed at reshaping American education during the lead‑up to America’s 250th anniversary.  A major focus of the conversation is the newly launched Presidential 1776 Award, a national civics and history competition created to reverse declining historical literacy among young Americans. McMahon explains that students will take a 90‑minute “Impossible Test” of 4,000 rapid‑fire questions, advancing through three rounds for scholarships of up to $150,000. Clay and Buck enthusiastically offer to take the test themselves—joking about challenging media figures—and highlight how this effort aligns with a broader push to revive foundational American history.

The interview expands into President Trump’s education reform strategy, which aims to return educational authority to the states by dismantling federal bureaucracy and moving Department of Education functions to other agencies. McMahon emphasizes that despite more than $3 trillion spent since the Department’s creation in 1980, national test scores have declined—proving that centralized control has failed. She highlights the “Mississippi Miracle,” where the state dramatically boosted literacy by reinstating phonics‑based “science of reading” instruction, prompting other states to adopt similar reforms. She also discusses school innovation across the country—from classical academies to AI‑driven models like Austin’s Alpha School—and her goal of producing a best‑practices toolkit for all fifty states.  The hour then pivots sharply to controversial school protests in Minneapolis, where staff and administrators walked out during political demonstrations, prompting criticism that public schools behave as “shock troops” for far‑left activism. McMahon signals that such closures could invite federal investigation or funding consequences, especially given Minnesota’s already weak academic performance.  Clay and Buck follow with a broader critique of America’s K–12 system—calling it a glorified daycare model that prioritizes union demands over student outcomes—while advocating for parental empowerment, school choice, and more flexible education pathways.

Another Trans Shooter

A major conversation on rising violence involving transgender-identifying shooters, sparked by news of a British Columbia mass shooting. The hosts link this to previous attacks in Minneapolis and Nashville, arguing that the media and police distort facts by prioritizing preferred pronouns over biological accuracy. The transcript includes an extended critique of mental‑health issues, hormonal drugs, and the cultural narrative that non‑affirmation constitutes “genocide,” which the hosts argue contributes to radicalization among vulnerable individuals. They highlight the police’s admission that the Canadian shooter was biologically male, despite earlier claims of “female,” and examine concerns about public safety, media bias, and political correctness.

Jesse Kelly Hangs With Us

Jesse Kelly, host of The Jesse Kelly Show and author of the newly released Jesse’s Little Red Book opens the hour with their signature banter—roasting each other’s haircuts, mustaches, and Super Bowl party choices—before diving into deeper political and cultural issues shaping the country under President Donald Trump.

A major segment centers on Jesse Kelly’s new book, which he describes as a free, 93‑page collection of his insights on politics, culture, party dynamics, and even food. From there, the hosts pivot into a fiery discussion of the Jeffrey Epstein hearings, expressing frustration that self‑identified victims continue holding press events without naming alleged abusers. The conversation compares the situation to the trajectory of the Me Too movement, arguing that legitimate victim advocacy has been diluted by performative claims, opportunism, and media manipulation.

The political analysis intensifies as the hosts look ahead to Election 2026, with Jesse predicting that Republicans may lose the House but retain the Senate, depending largely on the strength of the economy and whether “normie voters” feel financial relief in their everyday lives.  The hour also features a humorous cultural debate after Clay proposes that Taylor Swift may be evolving into the “21st‑century Beatles,” prompting Jesse’s mock‑therapeutic concern and Buck’s acknowledgment of Swift’s global cultural dominance. 

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