
Me, interviewed by Brits
Volts
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What's the Best Source of Optimism?
"Paris is just like a friendly competition. What can you do? What do you think you can do?" he says. "It's actually, oh, look, it's actually like saving us money." He adds that anything that loosens action and gets people doing stuff 'kicks off a positive cycle'
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