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RSAC Recap: Agentic AI Takes Over, Security Funding Shifts, and Why CISOs Must Focus on Resilience

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Jim Love and co-host David Shipley recap the RSA Conference in San Francisco, noting that "zero trust" marketing has faded and "agentic AI" (especially "agentic SOC") dominated vendor messaging. David highlights a major market shift: AI is pressuring cybersecurity company valuations and could reduce funding, accelerate consolidation, and raise security costs due to heavy compute requirements, even as demand increases. They discuss how AI disproportionately benefits attackers, including new phishing-as-a-service capabilities, while organizations cut security hiring in anticipation of AI gains. David's standout booth, MindGuard, used a 1990s metaphor to argue AI security is as immature as cybersecurity was decades ago. He also interviews Commvault CSO Bill O'Connell on the evolving CISO role, communicating risk, the importance of recovery and "ResOps," and celebrating CISOs, including Time magazine's CISO of the year concept.

00:00 Weekend Show Kickoff 00:46 RSAC Recap Setup 01:06 Zero Trust Is Dead 01:48 Agentic SOC Everywhere 03:41 AI Shifts Security Valuations 06:55 Peak Security And Consolidation 07:55 Costs And Layoffs Warning 09:35 Attackers Gain The Edge 11:48 RSAC Booth Spectacle 13:39 MindGuard Nineties Metaphor 15:40 Commvault CISO Interview Begins 17:22 Backup To Cyber Resilience 18:04 Modern CISO Role Evolution 19:55 Translating Risk For Leaders 21:44 Risk Versus FUD 22:22 AI Hype And CISO Relevance 23:29 Defining AI And Controls 24:33 Agentic AI And Backups 25:49 Resilience Over Prevention 27:52 ResOps And Practicing Recovery 31:06 Advice For New CISOs 33:30 Celebrating The CISO Role 35:43 Is The Job Worth It 37:06 Host Wrap And Audience Feedback 39:18 Korea Trip And Show Signoff 40:13 Sponsor Message And Closing