Brené and Adam on What They Will Never Agree On
The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant
Outro
Closing thanks, production notes, and invitation to subscribe; show credits and Vox Media mention.
Welcome to The Curiosity Shop! In the inaugural episode, Brené and Adam discuss how a public disagreement about authenticity almost ended their relationship before it began. For the first time, they discuss where they went wrong, why they changed their minds about each other, and what they learned about repair and trust. They also explore what healthy authenticity looks like, and dive into the many things they may still never fully see eye to eye on – from email vs. texting to remote work to faith.
Show Notes
Unless You’re Oprah, ‘Be Yourself’ Is Terrible Advice - Adam Grant 2016 NYT Op-Ed
The Fine Line Between Helpful and Harmful Authenticity - Adam Grant 2020 NYT
Authenticity Is a Double-Edged Sword - Adam Grant 2020 WorkLife with Adam Grant Podcast
My response to Adam Grant’s New York Times Op/ED: Unless You’re Oprah, ‘Be Yourself’ Is Terrible Advice - Brené Brown LinkedIn 2016
The Dangers of Being Authentic - Adam Grant LinkedIn 2016
In Tough Times, Psychological Safety Is a Requirement, Not a Luxury - Michael Blanding 2025 HBR
Jecker & Landy: Liking a person as a function of doing him a favour - Jecker & Landy 1969 APA PsycNet
Adam Grant on The Power of Knowing What You Don’t Know - Brené Brown and Adam Grant 2021 Dare To Lead Podcast
Brené Brown on What Vulnerability Isn’t - Adam Grant and Brené Brown 2023 Re: Thinking Ted Audio Collective
A Whole New Mind (Right-Brainers will Rule the Future) - Daniel H. Pink 2005 Book
The Neuroscience of You: How Every Brain Is Different and How to Understand Yours - Chantel Prat 2022 Book
Dr. Harriet Lerner on I’m Sorry: How to Apologize and Why It Matters, Part 1 of 2 - Brené Brown and Dr. Harriet Lerner 2020 Unlocking Us Podcast
Happy Gilmore Scene - I’m Stupid You’re Smart - Happy Gilmore 1996 Movie
Shame and Guilt - June Price Tangney 2002 Book
Daniel Kahneman: Doesn't Trust Your Intuition - Adam Grant and Daniel Kahneman 2021 Re:Thinking
But yes, Blue Jays are master mimics
Sponsor List
Thank you to SAS and Canva!
Chapters Titles + Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction
3:26 - Our First Disagreement
18:45 - Our Path Here
28:31 - Approach to Repair an Apology
51:02 - Closing Question
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