What counts as conversion therapy now

On Tuesday, the Supreme Court rejected a Colorado law that restricted counselors from assisting clients who wished to change their sexual orientation or gender identity. Luke Goodrich from The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty joins to discuss with Russell Moore and Clarissa Moll why the Supreme Court was nearly unanimous on the decision, and the implications for free speech. Then, CT’s Sho Baraka stops by to discuss the high unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates, and where grads can find hope. Finally, Daniel K. Williams joins to analyze Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth’s service at the Pentagon in which he prayed imprecatory prayers against America’s enemies. This in contrast with Pope Leo’s Palm Sunday sermon, in which he prayed for peace in the midst of war.

REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE:

• Conversion Therapy, TikTok’s Algorithm, and Child Abuse Convictions - The Bulletin
• Young Graduates Face the Grimmest Job Market in Years - The New York Times
• War Projections, 2028 Hopefuls, AI Novels, and Men's College Attendance - The Bulletin

ABOUT THE GUESTS:

Luke Goodrich is vice president and senior counsel at Becket, where he represents religious organizations and individuals in religious liberty disputes in courts across the country, including in the Supreme Court. He is the award-winning author of Free to Believe: The Battle Over Religious Liberty in America. Luke has appeared on CNN, Fox News, ABC World News, PBS, and NPR, and has been published or quoted in major outlets like The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and The New York Times.

Sho Baraka is Christianity Today’s Big Tent editorial director. He is a recording artist, performer, culture curator, activist, and writer. He is a cofounder of Forth District and the And Campaign, and he has served as an adjunct professor at Wake Forest University School of Divinity. He was an original member of influential hip-hop consortium 116 Clique, recording with Reach Records.

Daniel K. Williams teaches American history at Ashland University and is the author of several books on Christianity and politics in the United States, including The Politics of the Cross: A Christian Alternative to Partisanship and Defenders of the Unborn: The Pro-Life Movement before Roe v. Wade. His work has been published in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Atlantic.

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