Bombshell: star witness's full Jan. 6 testimony released
The Beat with Ari Melber
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Are You Defending to the Ends of the Earth?
Ruth Ben-Ghiat: This is an a person not acting as an attorney, but acting as a mob thug. She says that she came comes out of the hearing and she tells her lawyers, Stefan Pasano, she says, I'm effed. I just lied. They don't know that you can recall some of these things. And then he responds by saying, "I will defend to the ends of the earth" If this is true, it puts him in the Rudy Giuliani category of someone who's going to lose his legal license. It makes it very clear that this was an authentic coup attempt. We have 150 pages of the report; we've been digesting
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