The Importance of Working With Your Hands

Even in a pretty theologically rich area, like Louisville, Kentucky, I was like, okay, I'm going to focus on work because I need to provide for my family. And people were like, Oh, man, that is just so sad you give up on your calling. But even there, right, it's kind of implicit that being you couldn't be fulfilling your calling. Well, yeah, working at Valvelling, of course you can, but we tend to not think that way. So if you're looking at this implicit sacred secular, that's just something you have to have a mindset shift about.