The Role of Engaged Smart and Splunk

i'm excited about both guests that we've got on for this one, jack. Both these s fos have worked a long time throughout during their career. They basically earn their stripes through some long stretches of good work and then they popped onto the cfo roll. And so they give us that what does it take to have the stamina to get to grow yourself and get the variety, to possession yourself to be selected as a c f o? And then secondarily, once you get there, what does it takes to fulfil the job?