Using Lucidity to Find Clarity in Nightmares

How dreams cultivate intuition, mediate inner conflict, and connect conscious and unconscious life. Host Katherine Bell speaks with psychologist and author Athena Laz about the “medial” archetype, dreamwork as a bridge between worlds, and practical ways to engage intuition, lucidity, and meaning—especially during challenging times.

00:04 – Welcome & the Power of Beautiful Dreams Introduction to The Dream Journal and Katherine’s flying dream that highlights joy, connection, and the intrinsic value of positive dreams.

00:07 – Introducing Athena Laz & the Medial Archetype Athena Laz discusses her work and explains the “medial” (bridge‑making) archetype that connects inner and outer worlds, conscious and unconscious.

00:09 – Dreams as Mediators of Inner Conflict Examples of how dreams help reconcile head–heart conflicts and guide decision‑making through symbolic imagery and dream figures.

00:13 – Developing Intuition Through Dreams & Play How intuition is often suppressed—and how dream journaling, simple games, and playful practices can rebuild trust in the inner voice.

00:19 – Dreamwork, the Brain, and Intuitive Growth Exploration of how dreaming neurologically and psychologically bridges nonverbal and verbal awareness, strengthening intuition.

00:21 – Sensitivity, Boundaries, and the Collective Unconscious Potential challenges of heightened intuition, including emotional overwhelm, and the importance of grounding and balance.

00:25 – Community, Shared Dreaming & the IASD Conference Discussion of group dreaming, collective wisdom, and the transformative potential of dream‑focused gatherings.

00:33 – Athena’s Dreaming Journey & Personal Practice Athena shares how early lucid dreams, a pivotal experience in her 20s, and ongoing dream‑sharing rituals shape her current relationship with dreaming.

00:39 – Nightmares, Lucidity & Finding the Treasure Working with nightmares, recognizing dream signs, lucid practices, and learning to find moments of clarity, hope, and meaning within difficult dreams.

00:52 – Visitations, Meaning & the Possibility Beyond the Self A closing exploration of visitation dreams, love beyond death, porous boundaries of the self, and dreams as a space of profound connection and healing

BIO: Athena Laz is a bestselling author, intuitive, and psychologist who helps people connect to spirit and psyche through the medium of dreams and symbols. Her books are Women Who Dance in the Dark: Awaken Your Inner Seer Through Myths, Dreams, and Stories and The Alchemy of Your Dreams A Modern Guide to the Ancient Art of Lucid Dreaming and Interpretation.

Connect with her at AthenaLaz.com or on IG @athena_laz

Videos available on YouTube at youtube.com/@experientialdreamwork. Popular playlists: “Dream Journal shorts” and “FULL LENGTH VIDEOS”.

This show, episode number 352, was recorded during a live broadcast on February 28, 2026 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Here are links to some other Dream Journal episodes you might be interested in:

Practical Magic with Niki Jaimes

Looking Beneath Appearances with Christian Gerike

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Erik Nelson for answering the phones.

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The Dream Journal aims to: Increase awareness of and appreciation for nightly dreams. Inspire dream sharing and other kinds of dream exploration as a way of adding depth and meaningfulness to lives and relationships. Improve society by the increased empathy, emotional balance, and sense of wonder which dream exploration invites.

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

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